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5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by AlwaysBeNice » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:53 am

A molecule made in our own bodies, just like nn-DMT (regularly called just DMT).
I know that nn-DMT is found in many plants, animals as well, and it's possibly found in all plants (there is no funding to test it).
I am not sure about 5-MeO-DMT, but it's a neurotransmitter made in our own bodies, I would say that's a good sign.

nn-DMT makes you trip balls, makes your consciousness go to 4/5/6th density (aka hyperspace) when you breakthrough with a high enough dose, where beings such as Bashar also come and go (this is said by Bashar), they make you see these entities, it can transport you to different dimensions, other worlds, completely different states of being, also gives the possibility of ego death and oneness with God.
With low/medium doses it makes you peer into other dimensions or hallucinate here, while still remaining in your body.
If I remember correctly, when Bashar was in a conversation about this substance/drugs, I belief he actually (somewhat 'jokingly') recommended it, 'put that in your pipe and smoke ittt'.
It's said to be the most potent psychedelic (doses vary from 10-70mg)

It should be noted that all states of being, traveling through the universe can be achieved without drugs, one of the strongest tools simply being centered yogic meditative breathing: http://bashar-forum.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=474

5-MeO-DMT is actually the most potent 'psychedelic' though it has almost no visual effects, and is active between 2-30mg. Indeed a very light dose, so just like DMT, be very careful with measuring your dose because a tiny bit too much can cause adverse health effects (with 5-meo), otherwise it's probably safe, if you don't have any heart conditions.
Anyways, always thoroughly research any substance before use.

What 5-MeO does is basically remove the ego and at the same time skyrocket the level of consciousness (to ultimately infinity/God). Indeed it's the most intense experience one can imagine, it is the most grand experience you can have. I've also heard so far that everyone cries for about a long time afterwards as it also cleanses a lot of negativity.
This already seems to be very interesting, for the experience in and of itself but also for growth.
Leo, the man from the youtube channel I will be linking too, says it's also powerful into weakening the ego, by starting with low doses and working your way, as a way to learn how to surrender.
And using it periodically along with your regular meditation/self-inquiry practice may the most powerful path towards enlightenment (though I don't belief it every truly ends, even after crossing the threshold of no negative ego/some sort of God awareness, said in CwG and by Bashar).

The trip report:


More on the substance:


I'll be trying it in the future I think, but first nn-DMT.
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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by TBP » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:13 am

AlwaysBeNice wrote:A molecule made in our own bodies, just like nn-DMT (regularly called just DMT)
Drop the nn- nomenclature, that's extraneous. The chemical names are N,N-dimethyltryptamine and 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, so the nitrogen notation can be dropped. Note that serotonin and melatonin are 5-hydroxytryptamine and N-acetyl-5-methoxytryptamine.
5-MeO-DMT is actually the most potent 'psychedelic'
LSD is about 100 times more potent.
What 5-MeO does is basically remove the ego and at the same time skyrocket the level of consciousness (to ultimately infinity/God). Indeed it's the most intense experience one can imagine, it is the most grand experience you can have. I've also heard so far that everyone cries for about a long time afterwards as it also cleanses a lot of negativity.
There's probably one even more intense type of experience than smoking pure 5-MeO-DMT. There's a healing ceremony or modality that has been spreading which is the ayahuasca of 5-MeO-DMT, often called simply "sapo" or "toad", which refers to the Colorado River Toad, bufo alvarius, whose skin secretions are the only known substantial natural source of 5-MeO-DMT, but which also contain smaller amounts of other psychoactive tryptamines like bufotenin (5-HO-DMT).

TBH though, over time I've found 5-MeO-DMT to be much easier / less fearsome than DMT. Part of me shivers in absolute terror at the thought of a high-dose DMT experience. 5-MeO-DMT on the other hand, is always delightful. :D

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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by Alice » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:35 am

It does sound delightful! So you are supposed to smoke it? (Haven't watched the videos yet...) Where can you get it?

Like you TBP, I'm scairt of high dose DMT. :shock:

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Post by AlwaysBeNice » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:08 am

Supposedly almost breaking through on DMT can be much more scarier than going all the way.
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Post by xplosiw » Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:31 pm

AlwaysBeNice wrote:Supposedly almost breaking through on DMT can be much more scarier than going all the way.
I've experienced this. It was terrifying because I wasn't ready to let my ego go yet it felt like it was about to burst. Everything I knew to be true appeared false and non-relevant. At the same time it was very liberating. Perhaps in a group setting with experienced and trustworthy people I could do this, that experience was done alone so I was somewhat afraid I would never come back.

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Post by Nirvana » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:42 pm

From my reading, it seems like 5-MeO-DMT is more likely to be scarier than N,N-DMT. Also, at least one study showed that N,N-DMT is more likely to be a subjectively pleasant experience than LSD and psilocybin.

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Post by Rokazulu » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:55 am

There is almost no stories I've read of people breaking through and then regretting it. It is always an indescribable an awe-inspiring experience that makes you wonder what kind of amazing realities await in the next existence. Getting there is always the scary part, and sometimes you can get hyper-slapped if you abuse the drug in anyway.

By the way, you can read many stories at

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default. ... topics&f=3

or

https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/
(and searching the term DMT)
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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by Rokazulu » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:58 am

AlwaysBeNice wrote:5-MeO-DMT is actually the most potent 'psychedelic'
TBP wrote:LSD is about 100 times more potent.

What do you mean by this TBP?

I thought 5-MeO-DMT always killed your ego. I figured LSD, for the most part, was a party drug that just makes you see pretty colors.
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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by AlwaysBeNice » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:28 pm

He's meaning literal potency, as in you only need x amount of milligrams.
5-MeO is by far the strongest drug effect wise, LSD can also get you into hyperspace or ego-death at a high enough dose though by the way.
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Post by AlwaysBeNice » Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:26 pm

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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by HotClopper » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:35 am

yea i dunno lsd is some fun shit its like anything can be anything its amazing as fuck on the lsd i love to suck like OH FUCK!

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Post by AlwaysBeNice » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:57 pm

New interviews, truly amazing, seriously recommend it

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Post by Alice » Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:36 pm

Watched part of the second video. Do you agree with the guy's put-downs of Terence McKenna? "So much of what he shared is absolute nonsense" etc.

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Post by AlwaysBeNice » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:11 pm

No.
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Post by Alice » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:59 pm

AlwaysBeNice wrote:No.
Good for you 8-) I must say I was put off by that.

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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by AlwaysBeNice » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:08 am

Actually I don't really disagree because it's all said in the context of it's all you. He tries to make clear it's not about seeing others, that it's not important at all and very unreal compared to the experience of being one with infinity.
I did email him about it and got the impression he does belief in spirit. Either way, it doesn't really matter so much in terms of his validity, because it's not expected the character you play every once in a while would know every little mystery after enlightenment and he speaks in terms of 'I think' when talking about subjective truths.
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Re: 5-MeO-DMT, the best catalyst for enlightenment?

Post by coolbreeze » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:04 pm

AlwaysBeNice wrote:Nice trip report https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/ ... sufflated/
that was awesome. id love to try this and break free of my ego. in theory, i think i'd willingly say adios, knowing that it's a fleeting disconnection and ill return. but upon deeper contemplation, i am sure that there would be some fear in "letting go" completely to breakthrough.

do you think we feel this same emotion upon our actual death? i think upon death there's a more peaceful and loving transition where you are more "called" upon to let go whereas with a substance like this, you're left to your own faculties to handle the temporary transition. it sounds incredibly enlightening, which is why it's a schedule 1 here in the US of course.

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