Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

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Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Phill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:08 pm

Hello everyone,

I would like to hear your ideas on this topic. So far there is no scientific proof of life outside of earth but all of us who know Bashar know this is bunk. Now when I'm around people who don't know him and this topic comes up the usual discussion I hear is something like:

"Do you think extraterrestrials exist?"
"Well yea, the universe is so big and I don't think we are the only place on earth where life has evolved."
"Yea, me too."

And I'm thinking to myself "Shit. These people have no clue (without wanting to be condescending). How am I going to tell them there is an extraterretrial who lives in our future and speaks through a human?"

Many people who have attended Bashar's meetings have had face to face contact with him and the rate at which we remember is a barometer for them for open contact. So far I have remembered one face to face interaction with him and several other interactions and ET related stuff. So I know for a fact that he is not a demon or just the figment of Darryl's imagination because "oh, he's a movie maker, ya know" <- FUCK THAT.

I find this important because I don't really enjoy being subject to ridicule, being called a crackpot or nutjob when I know I'm right and time will reveal it to be so. Reminds me of a quote from Ramtha: "Are you laughing because it is stupid or because you are stupid?"

If you have a science background and have ideas how we could make this happen I'm all ears. Also, since I currently study at the Deparment of Biology here at ETH in Switzerland (it's like MIT) I can talk to my Biology and Physics professors and see how they respond. If you have convincing proof or know something that I should know, please share. They are not stupid and quite open-minded unlike Neil deGrasse Tyson who is like: "Call me again when you have an ET ready for a dinner conversation." Well, they don't eat, drink or sleep anymore so how do you think that will happen?!

My Biology professor would certainly be open to the idea of discussing extraterrestrial life and with my Physics professor I could discuss Bashar's explanation of an experiment that will teleport a metal ball through the change of the locational variable. Although I did energetically notice them dodging the subject, mainstream science has already teleported photons but we need to able to do it on the macroscopic scale aswell.

To be honest I can't stop thinking about the technological implications open contact with advanced extraterrestrial civilizations is going to have on our planet. It's gonna be huuuuuge. :lol:
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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Arouet » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:14 pm

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Rokazulu » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:17 pm

I find this important because I don't really enjoy being subject to ridicule, being called a crackpot or nutjob when I know I'm right and time will reveal it to be so.
You might be the object of ridicule but, you yourself will always have the choice whether you wish to be the subject of ridicule for circumstances never matter if your state of being is in joy either way. Make sense?

People will interpret your worldview around their own no matter what, so you might as well be as transparent as you like on any topic and speak your mind fully with no fear of judgement from others for no one has the ability to judge you except yourself. Check that line again! Does it make sense to you?

It is ok, if you don't immediately grasp this. However, if you are starting to feel a bit of anxiety because you think you might now have to start speaking your truth to anyone you meet, it is not anxiety, it is actually your excitement in disguise.
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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Phill » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:19 pm

Rokazulu wrote: You might be the object of ridicule but, you yourself will always have the choice whether you wish to be the subject of ridicule for circumstances never matter if your state of being is in joy either way. Make sense?

People will interpret your worldview around their own no matter what, so you might as well be as transparent as you like on any topic and speak your mind fully with no fear of judgement from others for no one has the ability to judge you except yourself. Check that line again! Does it make sense to you?
That makes total sense. And I have been there, oscillating back and forth between not caring and caring what they think.
Once one issue has been resolved (like we actually HAVE scientific proof) there will be another and another. Different places, different faces as Abraham would say.
I try to live an unconditional life every day, after all that's what Bashar does every day aswell and we gotta be on the same vibe to meet. So I will practice speaking my truth more often.
Rokazulu wrote:
It is ok, if you don't immediately grasp this. However, if you are starting to feel a bit of anxiety because you think you might now have to start speaking your truth to anyone you meet, it is not anxiety, it is actually your excitement in disguise.
That is so spot on. :shock: It IS my excitement and I have been confusing anxiety and excitement sometimes. I will clean this up and it might resolve quite a few things for me, thanks!

Nevertheless I'm not looking for a pat on the back on this issue, I was hoping for more practical answers. Like, we all just got stranded on an island together, but there is a way out. We have a blueprint and all the parts of a working UFO because the ship was part of a secret special access program and we were able to recover all the parts before the ship sank. Now I'm asking, are there any technicians here, pilots, engineers?

Meaning, does anyone know something about science or have people working at NASA, SETI or some elite university?

Dr. Steven Greer talked about how nobody wants to stick their neck out for this issue because everyone wants to be first to be second. Well, I don't like to be second, I want to be first! There is this story how James Watson and Francis Crick discovered the double helix structure and there was a race for it. There is a race for almost any major invention/discovery and I want there to be a race for the scientific discovery of ET life!

Bashar talked about how it will change our mindset and I've already seen that this is true. Once we KNOW there is ET life we start thinking differently, exploring different possibilities and quite frankly, a lot of light needs to be shed on this issue because we are not alone.

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Alice » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:25 am

Surveys show that at least half the population or a little more, do believe there is ET life.
http://www.newsweek.com/most-people-bel ... ist-377965

This guy isn't "scientific" but seems very sure of what he is claiming. He said he would follow up on this
talk but doesn't seem he has.


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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Arouet » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:46 pm

Phill wrote:
Meaning, does anyone know something about science or have people working at NASA, SETI or some elite university?
You're looking at a PRECURSOR what more did you want?

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Phill » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:37 pm

Arouet wrote: You're looking at a PRECURSOR what more did you want?

:evil:
No offense, but someone who could publish in a scientific journal like Nature (https://www.nature.com/) with a high impact factor and it wouldn't get rejected.

It's science, so it needs to be independently verifiable. If there was a DNA sample that could be analyzed in the lab that would be great. It's quite a difficult task tbh. That's why I'm looking for people who may already be in science and also know about Bashar or ET life in general.

Bashar talked about how it will be a fact that extraterrestrial life exists. Our knowledge of it might be small at first and it could be that NASA discovers water on some planet where bacterias can live...I have no clue and don't know why we have to jump through all these hoops but I think for the masses to be able to believe in ETs science must back it up or it loses credibility in their eyes. And if the country leaders don't push for disclosure it's up to us.

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Nirvana » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:47 am

So do any of you care that disclosure just started? With Luis Elizondo (Ex-Pentagon official) and David Fravor's (Navy Commander Pilot) accounts of UFO encounters being taken seriously by mainstream media?

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Phill » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:21 am

Nirvana wrote:So do any of you care that disclosure just started? With Luis Elizondo (Ex-Pentagon official) and David Fravor's (Navy Commander Pilot) accounts of UFO encounters being taken seriously by mainstream media?
If by "disclosure just started" you mean "they stopped lying about it as they did for the last 50+ years" then yes, I do care and already saw that piece of "news".

CNN headline: "We may not be alone." Can you be more vague?
Another thing they mentioned: the UFO research program they conducted over the last few years apparently cost $22million. They didn't mention the $22trillion that "disappeared".

To me that's further disinformation. But it's definitely a step in the right direction if the Pentagon starts to speak more openly about it. Full disclosure looks different though. We'd have to be introduced to the ET civilizations.

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Arouet » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:45 am

Phill wrote:
Arouet wrote: You're looking at a PRECURSOR what more did you want?

:evil:
No offense, but someone who could publish in a scientific journal like Nature (https://www.nature.com/) with a high impact factor and it wouldn't get rejected.

It's science, so it needs to be independently verifiable.
B announced our coming. The PRECURSORS. I am here. Excuse moi but fuck science at this time.
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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Phill » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:11 pm

Arouet wrote:
B announced our coming. The PRECURSORS. I am here. Excuse moi but fuck science at this time.
Then why the fuck are you polluting this thread with your attitude? It clearly says SCIENCE in the title and then you come here and go "Fuck Science". Your temper tantrums don't serve anyone here. We might aswell go around town and ask people to join this new cult, it's called Bashar's witnesses.

Au revoir!

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Arouet » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:31 pm

Phill wrote:
Arouet wrote:
B announced our coming. The PRECURSORS. I am here. Excuse moi but fuck science at this time.
Then why the fuck are you polluting this thread with your attitude? It clearly says SCIENCE in the title and then you come here and go "Fuck Science". Your temper tantrums don't serve anyone here. We might aswell go around town and ask people to join this new cult, it's called Bashar's witnesses.

Au revoir!
Listen, Francis, don't come to this forum with all of your NINE posts and shove your lack of manliness around. NOBODY who talks and writes like that to prove themselves as a "big mean dog on the Interwebs" has an ounce of respect from anybody. It's a funny thing, go figure, there's just something about that white trailer trash talk that grates on the nerves of any one with a lick of sense.

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Phill » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:41 pm

I should have known from the start that people like you lack the mental real estate to see what I'm up to here. While I'm actually trying to do you and everyone here a favor that's what I get in return. Where is the love? It's clearly unrequited.

First of all, what does post count have to do with anything? My involvement with Bashar dates further back than this updated forum suggests. At some point it was renewed because I clearly remember having interactions with other people back pre 2010 and they aren't accounted for. And I'm not sorry that I don't hang around here all that often for obvious reasons.

Second, you go with ad hominem attacks, which is another sign of your ignorance. When you play the game of science you have to play by the rules and you decided to shit on the chess board. Don't tell me I lack respect, manliness or am a trash talker. You can't even stick to the point. PERIOD.

I retire my search here and see what happens at my alma mater.

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Re: Establishing Scientific Proof of Extraterrestrial Life

Post by Arouet » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:44 pm

It doesn't take mental real estate, Francis, to see you are a TROLL with an agenda. One minute you call me aka moi a troll, the next, you troll. Is it any marvel why so few peeps have taken you with your unwaveringly immature and adolescent posting carnage? If you had been Jesus, there would only be Jews.

You seem to be incapable of maintaining coherent thought for any length of time, enjoy playing with words and attempting to obscure the truth with them. You imagine you are prefect at it, but you are not. A squirm is a squirm is a squirm.

I nearly was imprisoned by your instruction LOL but, candidly, your arrogance, ambivalence and inherent meanness expressed with amplitudes of example on this forum, conjoined with your exasperating hypocrisy, swore me sour of you, gratitude be to Ghod.

A remark of instruction. The next occasion you choose to escort us through "Your Way" sharpen up your personality skills, fine tune your humanity and expunge your rotten reputation for out-and-out despicability.

Then just forget about it.
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