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Post by Alice » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:37 am

The planet Saturn is so pretty... ... oyager.jpg

And it is very interesting as well. I'm learning a lot about Saturn.

Ra, in the Law of One channelings:"The planet known as Saturn has a great affinity for the infinite intelligence and thus it has been dwelled upon in its magnetic fields of time/space by those who wish to protect your system."

And this seems to corroborate Ra's statement: ... tence.html
A former NASA engineer at the Ames Research Center claims aliens are in our solar system and they are creating rings around planets like Saturn.

Dr. Norman Bergrun, who previously worked at NASA Ames Research Center has recently made comments that UFOs are hiding in the rings of Saturn.

According to conspiracy theory channel, SecureTeam10, which obtained Bergrun's comments, the alien ships have been here for some time.


"Alien spacecraft are proliferating in our solar system and around these ringed planets," Bergrun is quoted as saying on the video.

Bergrun also noted the aircraft are by the other ringed-planets in the solar system, including Jupiter and Uranus.
SecureTeam 10, which has nearly 900,000 YouTube subscribers, often runs conspiracy theory-based videos. The organization describes itself as the "source for reporting the best in new UFO sighting news, info on the space cover-up, and the strange activity happening on and off of our planet."

Bergrun wrote the 1986 book entitled "Ringmakers of Saturn." The book highlights that there are massive alien ships around Saturn (which Bergrun dubs "ring makers"), including ones which have actually created some of the rings around the gas giant.

This is not the first time Bergrun has made comments like this, having done so previously in 2016.
The Cassini spacecraft has been exploring Saturn since 2004. The mission will be completed in September when it dives into Saturn's atmosphere.
Astronomers are all abuzz! They are calling it The Grand Finale. ... /overview/

Could Saturn be the planet where as Bashar predicted, we will find evidence of alien life? Stay tuned...

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Re: Saturn!

Post by Alice » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:17 pm

Just found! Book, Ringmakers of Saturn, can be read here: ... Saturn.pdf

Amazon review:
After a few years of wanting to read this book, I finally got my hands on a copy. I have no background in astronomy or ufology but still find the basic premise of this book very intriguing—namely that the rings of Saturn are not naturally occurring but are in fact “made” by giant vehicles.

In this short book, Dr. Bergrun details NASA photos from the Voyager 1 flight that he believes prove the existence of these enormous machines. He begins with a brief history of our observations of the rings, beginning with Galileo and working his way into the 19th century. The author uses these early findings to begin building his case.

Dr. Bergrun believes that these machines are electromagnetic vehicles, or EMVs as he calls them. Exactly what their purpose is (or was) is not made clear, but their size and features are detailed—very big (they are cylindrical and up to 3 or 4 times the diameter of the Earth long) and possibly very old (Dr. Bergrun suggest that they could be as much as 3 or 4 billion years old.) Some of the plates in the book offer interpretations of what they might look like.

The author believes that the infamous Tunguska catastrophe of 1908 was the result of one of these EMVs getting too close to Earth. He also attributes the creation of Mare Orientale area of the moon to be a burn mark left by one of these EMVs.

The book is somewhat technical, but I felt that it was still very approachable to the average reader.

Then there is the big question: do I believe Dr. Bergrun’s theory? For the most part, the answer is yes. I think there certainly could be something to it because he makes a pretty good case for the existence of these vehicles, and photographs make for great selling points. However, I found it hard to see what I was supposed to be seeing in some of the photos. Maybe that is due to my unfamiliarity with NASA photos, but in a few of them I just didn’t see what Dr. Bergrun saw. All of the photos are labeled, and the author did insert markings to point out the objects and important features within them though. There are some very compelling photos as well—these make for strong evidence in Dr. Bergrun’s favor.

I think it would be a mistake to write off the contents of this book as the ravings of a wacko because Dr. Bergrun is anything but. His background and education are impeccable. He was part of NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics), the organization that later became NASA, among a long list of other things. His achievements are so impressive it is worth quoting from his website at length:

“Norman Bergrun is an alumnus of Ames Research Laboratory, NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics) predecessor of Ames Research Center, NASA where he worked twelve years as a research scientist. At Ames, he pioneered the setting of design criteria for airplane thermal ice-prevention and the developing of roll stability laws for airplanes, missiles and rockets.

He joined Lockheed Missiles and Space Company (now Lockheed Martin) where he was manager of the planning and analysis of flight tests for the Navy Polaris Underwater Launch Missile System. During his thirteen years at Lockheed, he also served as a senior scientist having responsible analysis cognizance of special space-satellite applications. After a short tour of duty with Nielsen Engineering and Research, in 1971 he founded Bergrun Engineering and Research, parent of Bergrun Research founded in 1999 especially for world wide web activities.

An Associate Fellow of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronauics (AIAA), he is active as a leader in Congressional Visits Day events on Capitol Hill. As Deputy Director-at-Large for the AIAA western region, he overlooks section activities in seven western states. Other memberships include The Planetary Society, The Association for the Advancement of Science, The Aviation Hall of Fame, the National Society of Professional Engineers, the Federation of American Scientists and the Scientific Faculty, International Biographical Centre, Cambridge, England.

Bergrun holds a BSME degree from Cornell University, an LLB from LaSalle University Extension, a DSc (Hon) from World University and a California Professional Engineer (PE) License. He also has engaged in graduate aerospace studies at Stanford University. He is a founder of the California Society of Professional Engineers Education Foundation, is author of two books Tomorrow's Technology Today and Ringmakers of Saturn and has published over 100 papers. Two recent manuscripts, Lunar Life Forms: Revelations of Apollo 14 and Mars Puts on a Good Face: The Masquerade, have been registered with the Library of Congress, Washington, D. C. He has lectured in the United States, Canada, England and Europe.

Credited with numerous awards and citations including the California Society of Professional Engineers Archimedes Engineering Achievement Award, and Special Service Citations for contributions to the AIAA National Public Policy and to the Regional Sections Activity Committees, he is listed in Marquis "Who's Who in the World", "Who's Who in America", "Who's Who in Science and Engineering", and other reference works.

Continuing interests include photography*, NASA student activities and music, having played as a concert musician at Carnegie Hall with the Cornell University Band and having been a founder of "Aurora Singers", a 64-voice choir.”

All in all, this book raises some important questions and will definitely make one think. If these EMVs are real, then where did they come from? What is their purpose? Dr. Bergrun points out that these massive, powerful vehicles could easily obliterate life on our planet, either intentionally or by accident; this is why he begins and ends this book with a plea for world peace and unity.

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